why care????

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>Douglas, Douglas, Douglas

>

>You are so articulate, so erudite;

Thank you; I regret that I'm unable to say the same for you.

>however, you seem

>to be all style but not substance.

>

>Your responses are as thought out, factual, and vile as

>that of a Bitter drag queen at 4am Sunday morning.

Was this meant as a joke? Or do you really not see the screaming irony of telling me that I am without substance in one sentence, only to then, in the VERY NEXT sentence, spit out some childish insult at me? If that's what you mean by "substance," I'm glad I don't have it.

>Once again you have it all wrong - missed the point. The

>problem with Gannon/Gluckert/Gung-din or What-ever-the-hell

>his name is – is not that he was/is an escort, . . . .

I keep hearing liberals trying to push this "scandal" say that his being an escort doesn't matter, and yet these very same liberals post: (a) article after article showing "proof" that he's an escort and calling this a "sex scandal," (b) pictures showing that he's an escort, © blog posts complaining that an "assfucker for hire" is allowed into the White House, and (d) disgustingly homophobic cartoons showing Gannon standing naked in leather spikes waiting to question the President.

If Gannon's being gay or being an escort isn't the issue, as you claim, how come the liberals who are desperately trying (with increasing futility) to make this a story won't shut the fuck up about the fact that Gannon is a gay escort? If it were really not an issue, wouldn't one expect not to find reference after reference to this fact?

>Getting daily access to the White House under an

>assumed name (and committing a crime – prostitution –eck!) in

>this day of terrorist attacks.

One way that you can tell what a fake scandal this is is that the people trying to make it a scandal have to rely upon outright lies. In order to get his passes, Guckert had to submit applications, which he did using his real legal name. Now that you know this, are you going to disregard it and keep repeating the lie that he got access to the White House "under an assumed name?"

>Interesting … I long suspect that you and Fin Fan Fing are one

>and the same.

Given that FFF is one of the very, very few people here who post anything that is creative, interesting, well-written, funny or responsively substantive, I'll take this as a compliment, notwithstanding its self-evident stupidity.

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

I suppose the saddest part about Doug these days is that he has become a parody of himself. His comments consist of insults and parroting the party line established by Karl Rove and disseminated through the Conservative Media.

Do you not find any irony at all in a gay male prostitute shilling for the so-called Family Values party?

The even more important question is how does a so-called journalist from a so-called news site get a daily press pass for years instead of going through the proper channels and background check?

Either the Administration knew exactly who Guckert was because he was planted there to ask softball questions, or the Bush Administration's national security is as lax as it was on September 10th, 2001.

Had this happened during the Clinton Administration, you conservatives would be chomping at the bit and asking for everything that Democrats are asking for now.

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>(d) disgustingly homophobic cartoons

There's nothing homophobic about any of the cartoons that have been posted here. Here's another good one:

http://www.post-gazette.com/images3/RR022205.gif

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>I don't know about that, but would you mind asking him - and

>ReturnOfS - if they supported the war in Afghanistan and/or

>

perhaps we will answer ....if and when you ever answer why you have not served in your idol's war,.... iraq my boy why are you not in iraq....we await your answer.

you do support the invasion of iraq...don't you

you do condone the loss of life suffered by american troops and iraqi citizens...don't you

and i know even if you are too old and decrepit to serve ,you are taking the money you would spend on a couple of young boy dicks and donating it for the purchase of armor for the troops....aren't you

surely a patriot like yourself has served in a war at sometime in this countrys history...haven't you

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>Have we determined for sure yet that Taylor, unlike

>Pinnochio, is a real boy?

>

>Jeff

okayyyyy........huh ??

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>perhaps we will answer ....if and when you ever answer why you

>have not served in your idol's war,.... iraq my boy why are

>you not in iraq....we await your answer.

Maybe you haven't heard, or maybe those who can't read aren't able to comprehend the news, but there is thing in the military called the Gay Ban - if you are openly gay, you are barred from serving in the military. Did you really not know that?

Now live up to your word. Did you support the war in Afghanistan?

Were John Edwards and Hillary Clinton "chicken hawks" for supporting the war without having served (or having their children serve)?

Is 90% of the American population - who supported the war in Afghanistan but didn't serve - cowardly and disgusting for supporting that war but not serving in it?

Was Bill Clinton a "chicken hawk" and a coward for sending soldiers to their death in Somalia and putting them into combat in Bosnia even though he never served?

Were Democrats who supported his military interventions, but who themseleves never served in those wars, cowards and chicken hawks?

CAN YOU ANSWER?

>you do support the invasion of iraq...don't you

I did, wholeheartedly - and I'm very pleased that we are seeing the spread of democracy as a result. . . Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Egypt and Lebanon. The leader of the opposition forces in Lebanon just said that what inspired the people of that country to demand freedom were the elections in Iraq on January 30.

>you do condone the loss of life suffered by american troops

>and iraqi citizens...don't you

No, that's you who condone that. You were in favor of keeping in power a murderous dictator who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of human being and murdered tens of thousands every year. You were in favor of keeping him in power and letting him pass that power to his psychotic sons who would have slaughtered hundreds of thousands more. That's because you didn't give a fuck about the suffering and deaths of Iraqis. I did.

>and i know even if you are too old and decrepit to serve. . .

Yet another idiot who spews assertions that are baseless and wrong. I'll bet you one of your horsees that I'm younger than 90% of the people who post here, at least. Deal, bitch?

Now that I've answered your question, it's time for you to answer mine. If you need help understanding them, ask and I"ll explain them more gently for you.

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>I suppose the saddest part about Doug these days is that he

>has become a parody of himself. His comments consist of

>insults . . . .

This, from the person who is capable of nothing more when discussing political issues than to say: "All Repiglicans lie about everything all the time." Only in this forum could such an insult drone accuse others of doing nothing but insulting others and maintain a straight face.

There is not a thread in which I participate where I don't post facts, rationale, arguments, and substance. In response, I am usually greeted by childish imbeciles telling me that I have shit on my face and that "Repiglicans lie about everything all the time." Check out the "Bush & Gays" thread for a great example of that.

>and parroting the party line established by Karl Rove

>and disseminated through the Conservative Media.

I can think of about 20 different major issues that I've criticized the Bush Administration for. I supported Howard Dean for President and didn't vote for George Bush. I liked Bill Clinton and thought he was a good President.

By contrast, you have never once said a single complimentary thing about the Bush Administration, and spew every stupid leftist cliche from every liberal sewer on the Internet, without deviation- EVER.

Accordingly, for YOU, of all people, to accuse me of spewing the party line is a rather pronounced example of the up-is-downism that passes for political discussion in this forum.

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

Blah, Blah, Blah.......

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>By contrast, you have never once said a single complimentary

>thing about the Bush Administration, and spew every stupid

>leftist cliche from every liberal sewer on the Internet,

>without deviation- EVER.

I suppose that for someone who likes to quote Ann Coulter, the truth is a difficult concept to grasp. The last time I was able to support anything the Bush Administration did was the decision to invade Afghanistan after Spetmeber 11th. Bush made the right decision and carried it out in a way that made me proud to be an American. It's been all downhill from there.

Oh, and there was something that the President said recently in regard to censorship. When asked about the subject, Bush replied something to the effect 'That's why there's an off button".

>Accordingly, for YOU, of all people, to accuse me of spewing

>the party line is a rather pronounced example of the

>up-is-downism that passes for political discussion in this

>forum.

I have to wonder if, rather that FFF or hairyDomBrazil, that Dougie isn't Jeff Gannon...but then again, we'll never know because all Repiglicans lie about everything all the time.

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

Douglas, Douglas, Douglas,

>>however, you seem

>>to be all style but not substance.

>>

>>Your responses are as thought out, factual, and vile as

>>that of a Bitter drag queen at 4am Sunday morning.

>Was this meant as a joke? Or do you really not see the screaming

>irony of telling me that I am without substance…

It was not a joke, nor was it ironic, I was making an analogy. In other words your writing might be voluminous, might be grammatically correct, but it is fluff and not based in reality. ?

>… in one sentence, only to then, in the VERY NEXT sentence,

> spit out some childish insult at me

LOL - to quote Emil Zola “J’accuse” - you Douglas are the king of childish insults. Too many examples to cite.

>If Gannon's being gay or being an escort isn't the issue, as you >claim, how come the liberals who are desperately trying (with >increasing futility) to make this a story won't shut the fuck up >about the fact that Gannon is a gay escort? If it were really not an >issue, wouldn't one expect not to find reference after reference to >this fact?

Not a liberal or conservative thing - sex sells Douglas just like Monica and the blue dress.

>>Interesting … I long suspect that you and Fin Fan Fing are one

>>and the same.

>Given that FFF is one of the very, very few people here who post >anything that is >creative, interesting, well-written, funny or >responsively substantive, I'll take this as a >compliment, >notwithstanding its self-evident stupidity.

Isn’t it a little vain to compliment yourself? ... sort of creepy too.

In your replies to Taylor:

>>perhaps we will answer ....if and when you ever answer why you

>>have not served in your idol's war,.... iraq my boy why are

>>you not in iraq....we await your answer.

>Maybe you haven't heard, or maybe those who can't read aren't able >to comprehend the news, but there is thing in the military called >the Gay Ban - if you are openly gay, you are barred from serving in >the military. Did you really not know that?

How convenient ...

... a true believer in the cause would enlist and just be discreet about their sexual identity. During WWII many underage boys joined – the army now, as then, is not too picky. If, however, you are so morally opposed to hiding your sexual identity, then get a job with Halliburton driving convoy trucks in Iraq. Your salary will be considerably higher than a GI, but you could donate the difference to soldier’s widows and orphans.

>Was Bill Clinton a "chicken hawk" and a coward for sending soldiers >to their death in Somalia and putting them into combat in Bosnia >even though he never served?

It is not a requirement that a president or any politician serve in the military. However, a chicken hawk/ coward is someone who actively avoided a war, but “supported it” and boastfully challenges terrorist “bring it on” while letting others fight his battles. Examples:

John McCain fought in Vietnam and supported that war – hero brave and sure.

John Kerry fought in Vietnam and later opposed that war – hero brave and sure.

Bill Clinton by the luck of the draw had a very high draft number – opposed that war - neither hero nor coward.

Dick Cheney used nearly every deferment known to avoid Vietnam “had better things to do” but “supported” it – a coward/chicken hawk.

GW Bush through connections was able to avoid the Vietnam by joining the Guard, but he “supported the war – a coward/chicken hawk.

Douglas it must be nice to sit back and pontificate and never have to place yourself in harm's way because of your convictions.

- Fisher :7

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>Have we determined for sure yet that Taylor, unlike

>Pinnochio, is a real boy?

>

>Jeff

ps: Love your Invader Zim doll pic!

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>

>Maybe you haven't heard, or maybe those who can't read aren't

>able to comprehend the news, but there is thing in the

>military called the Gay Ban - if you are openly gay, you are

>barred from serving in the military. Did you really not know

>that?

>

i don't know how to respond to the above,but i'll try.

are you telling us that the reason you,a person that gleefully sends off young folks to die in this sick perverted war started by your hero bush isn't going to fight alongside them because you are...gay.

you are going to dishonor the memory of all the gay men and women that died serving their country...by using your sexual orintation as an excuse not to serve!

you loudly proclaim your support for a war of aggression...but tell us you can't serve because your a....sissy, you are a fucking chump.

oh and true to my word i will answer your question concerning my service (like my answer will do any good)like many other guys i was ready,willing,and able (even though i'm a fag)to join the effort in afghanistan...but like everything else he does, "bush" had to pervert that with iraq.

in what other failures/shortcomings do you use your sexual orientation as an excuse?

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>i don't know how to respond to the above,but i'll try.

Well Skippy, you didn't try hard enough. Your responses to Doug's posts on this question are becoming ever more farcical - now, that doesn't have anything to do with passing gas, ya know.

Answer the question. As for me, I believe in the Civil War system. I pay people to fight for me.

Later.

PS. I kill animals (with luck, many months pregnant) for sport, so I've got plenty of loaner guns should anyone want to go hunting in KY. I imagine it would resemble fish and barrels. Which can still be fun, mind you.

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

Guess that Bill Clinton promising to fill in his papers to get out of the war through the head of the Ark Nat Guard but never did just didn't register with you. He also went to Europe and stayed there when he was supposed to show up for what he promised to do.

The reports already came through that Bush II was told that he would not be sent to Vietnam because the planes he was qualified on weren't going to be used there also never showed up on your radar screen or more likely shorted your complaints so you just sloughed it off. Funny how that happens so often to the LLL moonbats around here.

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>

>The reports already came through that Bush II was told that he

>would not be sent to Vietnam because the planes he was

>qualified on weren't going to be used there also never showed

>up on your radar screen or more likely shorted your complaints

>so you just sloughed it off. Funny how that happens so often

>to the LLL moonbats around here.

the weapons platform bushie was checked out in had been obsolete for some time...but as the super patriot and dedicated supporter of the vietnam war he was ...he could have used his basic flight talents in many other ways in southeast asia,but he would have been putting his safety where his mouth is...and well of course ...YOU know cowards never do that.

RE: Douglas Douglas Douglas

>Guess that Bill Clinton promising to fill in his papers to get out

>of the war through the head of the Ark Nat Guard but never did just

>didn't register with you

But he never did join the Guard and WAS subject to the draft unlike GWBush.

>He also went to Europe and stayed there when he was supposed to show

>up for what he promised to do.

Huh? … what did he promise to do … if he dodged the draft by going to Europe he would have been caught as soon as re-entered the US.

>The reports already came through that Bush II was told that he would

>not be sent to Vietnam because the planes he was qualified on

>weren't going to be used there also never showed up on your radar

>screen or more likely shorted your complaints so you just sloughed

>it off. Funny how that happens so often to the LLL moonbats around

>here.

Huh? … this makes my point – few if any ANG aircraft were used in Vietnam and GWBush and family knew that an assignment in the ANG would avoid an assignment in Vietnam, thus allowing the burden of the war (and casualties) to fall on the rural and urban poor and the working class (just like Iraq)

However, my point is not that GWBush is a coward because he actively avoided Vietnam, I do not fault him for that, but because of his hypocrisy, support of a war that he had neither the courage nor conviction to fight in (unlike his father who was the youngest Navy pilot in WWII) as well as his jingoistic bravado (“bring it on”) much like the spoiled rich kid paying the neighborhood bully to fight his battles. Furthermore, Clinton as president might have sent troops in harm’s way, but he used the military option sparingly (at least compared to GWBush) and he did not engage the country in the Iraqi quagmire that will take the country decades (just like Vietnam) to recover from.

- Fisher

Since when are you the paragon of compassion? You might want to read more of your own posts before you criticize others for theirs. Called many people names ("troll" seems to be your favorite) lately?