Conservatives claimed that liberals "want" Schiavo to die!

I guess it doesn't matter that the majority of Americans believe not only should Congress have not gotten involved, but that Terri has the right-to-die as she wished. These pandering pigs are using this issue to attack liberals, despite the fact that many Republicans, social Conservatives and Democrats are in agreement on this.

>>>>>Conservatives Claimed that Liberals "want" Schiavo to Die<<<<<

In discussing the Terri Schiavo case, several prominent media conservatives have accused liberals of wanting Schiavo to die and have imputed motives to them far beyond the belief, expressed by many liberals, that the courts were right to allow Schiavo's husband to make end-of-life decisions on behalf of his wife.

Syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh suggested that liberals "want this woman to die because Christian conservatives want her to live," calling it "payback." MSNBC host Joe Scarborough mused aloud about whether liberals "hate George Bush so much that they are cheering for Terri's death only because the president of the United States and his brother are fighting for Terri's life." Wall Street Journal contributing editor Peggy Noonan claimed that the "pull-the-tube people" -- she specifically named CNN Crossfire host James Carville and the website Democratic Underground -- are "committed" to Schiavo's death. Fox News host Bill O'Reilly singled out New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd and Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, stating, "I don't know why some of these left-wing columnists want her to die." Bay Buchanan, president of the conservative advocacy group The American Cause and frequent CNN commentator, asserted that the "only reason" that people "want" Schiavo to die is that "they've decided this woman is the property of her husband and he can do what he wants." Buchanan further accused feminists of "treating this woman like she is the property of her husband."

From the March 23 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: A question for those of you who are our friends on the left. Just answer it honestly to yourself: How many of you want Terri Schiavo to die simply because some Christian conservatives want her to live? How many of you have rejoiced when a death row inmate has been saved because of later investigation into DNA? Do you want Terri Schiavo to die because some Christian conservatives want her to live? Is that it?

Could it be -- and I suspect this is the real answer -- could it be that you have been so pent up with rage and frustration over the Christians in this country?

You just hated the success of The Passion of the Christ. You hated the outpouring of support for that movie, you just despise the red-state, hayseed, holy-roller crowd that you think is steamrollering the country.

Maybe this is just payback; you want this woman to die because Christian conservatives want her to live. And, since you don't like Christian conservatives so much you want them to be disappointed. You want them to find out what it's like to be on the losing side.

You want them to find out what it's like to not get away with everything they want just because they're Christians. Is that it? Does it really have nothing to do with Terri Schiavo; does it have solely to do with the fact that you want payback?

From the March 24 edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Country:

SCARBOROUGH: Why is that the same activists who fight to save the whales, the spotted owls, and a snail darter, for God's sake, sit quietly by while the U.S. government helps kill Terri Schiavo? Why do we see the visceral reaction by leftist organizations to the attempts to save Terri Schiavo's life? Do these liberals really hate George Bush so much? And that's all you ever hear about, George Bush. You never hear about Terri Schiavo.

But do they hate George Bush so much that they are cheering for Terri's death only because the president of the United States and his brother are fighting for Terri's life?

From Noonan's March 24 Wall Street Journal column:

I do not understand the emotionalism of the pull-the-tube people. What is driving their engagement? Is it because they are compassionate, and their hearts bleed at the thought that Mrs. Schiavo suffers? But throughout this case no one has testified that she is in persistent pain, as those with terminal cancer are.

Everyone who has written in defense of Mrs. Schiavo's right to live has received e-mail blasts full of attacks that appear to have been dictated by the unstable and typed by the unhinged. On Democratic Underground they crowed about having "kicked the sh-- out of the fascists." On Tuesday James Carville's face was swept with a sneer so convulsive you could see his gums as he damned the Republicans trying to help Mrs. Schiavo. It would have seemed demonic if he weren't a buffoon.

Why are they so committed to this woman's death?

They seem to have fallen half in love with death.

From the March 24 broadcast of Westwood One's The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly:

O'REILLY: Number one, there are a lot of Americans who simply want the woman to die. They just want her to die for a number of different reasons. There are some left-wing newspaper columnists, Maureen Dowd in The New York Times today, Richard Cohen, that despicable weasel down in The Washington Post. Oh, God! He is -- believe me. Anyway, they want her to die. And I'm sayin' to myself -- why? Why do you care whether she lives or dies?

All right, I don't have a dog in the hunt. I don't know why some of these left-wing columnists want her to die. Nobody can explain that to me.

From the March 25 edition of CNN's Inside Politics:

BAY BUCHANAN: This is an issue that -- the polls have been influenced by the press, and the press has suggested that there's two compelling principles here. But there is not. When the facts are out there, there's only one reason that they want this person to die, and that's because they've decided this woman is the property of her husband and he can do what he wants. He is not an honorable person, and that is quite clear if you look at the information. I ask you: where are the feminists? They are treating this woman like she is the property of her husband, that he can just go in and starve her to death because he doesn't like the quality of her life at this stage. ... This judge has basically told her husband, here, take a gun and shoot her. It's the same thing.

— N.C.

Posted to the web on Friday March 25, 2005 at 7:11 PM EST

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On one show (Scarborough??), the host refered to liberals as "killers".

This country has lost its mind!

It's truly disgusting and the sad thing is there are millions of Americans out there lapping up this vomit. Conservative organizations are using Terri Schiavo as a fundraising tool on their websites and in e-mailings to their members. Tom Delay spoke last Friday to the Family Research Council, a conservative Christian group. At this conference, he said that God had brought Terri Schiavo to the conservative movement "to help elevate the visibility of what is going on in America." He saw that as "attacks against the conservative movement, against me and against many others."

It was great to see Bush's approval ratings take a 7% hit and drop to the lowest of his presidency...45%. Happy Good Friday!:-)

>These pandering

>pigs are using this issue to attack liberals, despite the fact

>that many Republicans, social Conservatives and Democrats are

>in agreement on this.

So here we have someone sitting in Ohio obejcting to what he says is the inappropriately strident rhetoric used to describe liberals - and yet, he's the exact same Ohio individual who routinely calls conservatives and other people he disagrees with by elevated names such as: "cunt," "liar," "Nazi," "pig," and a whole host of other vulgar, hate-filled epithets.

In other words, the person with the most obscene, hateful, vulgar, insulting mouth in this place - someone who worships a "blogger" who calls hismelf "RudeOne" and says that he is devoted to lowering the level of political discourse - is actually sitting there holding himself out as the Beacon of Rhetorical Propriety and complaining about the mean-spirited name-calling by others.

Truly amazing. It's like hearing Saddam Hussein complain about other country's human rights violations.

At some point, don't you have to wake up and look in the mirror and say to yourself: "I engage in the exact same behavior that I pretend to find so abhorrent." How can you avoid that self-evident recognition?

Both liberals and conservatives have jumped off the deep end on this issue, including Dowd and Noonan. This situation is complicated and heart breaking and the political posturing is awful on both sides.

It does not surprise me that the polls show that the public is more thoughtful about this issue than the pundits. Are there many people who would want to be kept alive in Terri's condition? I would not, even if my family was as devoted as the Schindlers. I suspect that most people would agree, thus the polls results.

Last week I posted about making the decision to not allow a hospital to use a feeding tube for my 91 year old mother. The next several weeks under hospice care were peaceful and her death seemed easy. (She was able to drink a little water and eat a small amount of food.) I understand why the Schindlers are using every possible court or political route (Gov. Bush) to save Terri. If she does die shortly, they should be proud of their efforts. It is sad that the

Schindlers have not been able to devote their complete attention to Terri. Michael Schiavo reminds me of two life long friends who have been caring for desparately ill wives for more than a decade. They are both very strong, dominating men who are very sure of themselves (characteristics they have from a young age, just more pronounced now). I do not particularly enjoy being around them, but respect what they are doing.

>Truly amazing. It's like hearing Saddam Hussein complain

>about other country's human rights violations.

Would that be comparable to George W. Bush speaking endlessly about Saddam's "torture rooms" while having taken them over, making them his own and using them for essentially the same purposes? Saddam tortures, bad.....U.S. tortures......good.

Uh, Dougie......you're doing it again. I know you can't help yourself, but once again, you're showing us the old "pot calling the kettle black" routine. Your conservative skirt is just too short, and you're showing us your Manichaean ass.

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>At some point, don't you have to wake up and look in the

>mirror and say to yourself: "I engage in the exact same

>behavior that I pretend to find so abhorrent." How can you

>avoid that self-evident recognition?

Physician, heal thyself. One could fairly ask you the very same question you've posed to Jeff.

Doug, I have no problem with you acting like an asshole, which you invariably do. It's the hypocrisy and self-righteousness that is so distasteful.

>I have no problem with you acting like an asshole, which

>you invariably do. It's the hypocrisy and self-righteousness

>that is so distasteful.

How do you excuse your own?

>>I have no problem with you acting like an asshole, which

>>you invariably do. It's the hypocrisy and

>self-righteousness

>>that is so distasteful.

>

>How do you excuse your own?

>

Ethan, why don't you cite a few examples?

That canard has been floated & shot. Try harder & if you want to address me, I'll ask you to do it properly. You may use my username, or just Erik. Or, do you just want to admit that you're incapable of amiable dialogue?

This is the same Florida Supreme Court that ruled against Al Gore in 2000.