"I had a hard time keeping them straight"

"I killed so many women I have a hard time keeping them straight," he said in the statement. "I killed most of them in my house."

"I killed a lot of them in my truck," he said at another point in the statement.

"In most cases, when I killed these women, I did not know their names," Mr. Ridgway said in the statement. "Most of the time I killed them the first time I met them, and I do not have a good memory of their their faces."

These are the words of the so-called Green River killer who admitted today to killing FORTY-EIGHT women and still did not get the death penalty.

How can any jursidiction ever justify imposing a death sentence if this guy doesn't get one?

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I don't often agree with you on this part of the MC but I surely do this time. I wonder who decided to plea bargain this monster in the first place.

If they can't execute him, then they should tie him down and give him randomly spaced electrical shocks for the rest of his life. I am, believe it or not, a reasonably easy to get along with person but when I see someone like this person or in the gay world a Jeffrey Dahmer I just cannot see any other finding than death being reasonable.

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>but when I see someone like this person or in the

>gay world a Jeffrey Dahmer

Why do you see the world as divided into the straight world and gay world? They're both violent criminals, period.

This is why I like Howard Dean so much. Unlike Bush, the Great Divider, he wants to bring everyone together.

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By mentioning the same fate for both I was bringing them together. You are the one who assumed I was dividing them.

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>By mentioning the same fate for both I was bringing them

>together.

But you referred to Dahmer as being in "the gay world." Do you think someone who's gay lives in a separate, different world than straight people? If we want the same rights as everyone else, we can't keep thinking in such divisive terms. It's one world, one country.

RE: I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke

"It's one world, one country."

Group hug!

Oh, we tried that? Then bring on the COnfederate flags!!

RE: I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke

I guess we are back in the realm of "straight acting" again. We have to use the terminology as defined by Rick. Shades of PC language again. I thought we were getting beyond that with the first amendment clauses but I guess not. And they were talking about Ashcroft taking away the first amendment rights.

RE: I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke

>We have to use the terminology as defined by Rick.

What terminology is that? I merely asked a question, twice, to find out why you were dividing people into the gay & straight worlds. I never told you what to say.

RE: I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke

Why even ask the question? If I choose to comment that this case is much the same as the Dahmer case was to the gays, I have that right without anyone questioning me. You chose to decide that I was dividing the world. I didn't. I was commenting that the two were comparable and the results should be comparable. That is not dividing. That is combining.

RE: Death Penalty

I don't know, but does Oregon have the death penalty? If not, then he could not be sentenced to death.

This is why the DC snipers are being tried in Virginia rather than Maryland (where the death penalty has been suspended) or DC (which does not have the death penalty except for a cop killing). Let's hope they are into that electro-stimulation scene because we have a big ole' electric chair that should get them to blow their last big load! :o

Texas, Florida and Virginia (all Confederate states, btw, so wave the flag ) are three places you do not want to FUCK UP IN, as all three will turn you into a fricassee.

RE: I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke

>That is not dividing. That is combining.

Is it anything like the Atkins Diet?

RE: Death Penalty

washington, not oregon. and it does have a death penalty. the king county (wa) prosecutor agreed not to seek the death penalty in exchange for mr. ridgway providing info on ALL of the murders he committed, not just the ones for which he is being tried.

RE: Death Penalty

Thanks for the clarification. I can see why they may have made this deal, as there are probably many victims whose families are seeking closure and that he would not be willing to provide that closure without some kind of non-death deal.

RE: I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke

Since I have not dieted in 45 years, I have no idea what the Atkins diet entails. I don't think it is the same diet as the Donner group. More like a Freshman Mixer.

RE: Death Penalty

that's what the prosecutor's explanation was. the really shitty thing is that this man just managed to continue to manipulate the emotions of the families of his victims--both the ones whose cases have been closed and those whose cases are yet open.

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>"I killed so many women I have a hard time keeping them

>straight," he said in the statement. "I killed most of them in

>my house."

>

>"I killed a lot of them in my truck," he said at another point

>in the statement.

>

>"In most cases, when I killed these women, I did not know

>their names," Mr. Ridgway said in the statement. "Most of the

>time I killed them the first time I met them, and I do not

>have a good memory of their their faces."

>

>These are the words of the so-called Green River killer who

>admitted today to killing FORTY-EIGHT women and still did not

>get the death penalty.

>

>How can any jursidiction ever justify imposing a death

>sentence if this guy doesn't get one?

The fact that he did not get a death sentence doesn't really matter. I'd bet money on the fact that his fellow inmates will do the job for us - just like they offed Dahlmer and what's his name (the creepy Catholic priest who molested all those children)

The only way this guy can stay alive is if they put him in solitary for the rest of his life, which I believe would be a fate worse than death.

fukamarine

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while i am opposed to capital punishment in all cases no matter what the offence, it does not mean i think he should not be maintained in a most severe and stimuli lacking enviorment.

in my opinion he should be placed in an s.m.u. of the super-max class.

a violator of his stature should never be allowed any of the privileges of institutional life...ie:educational opportunities,group recreation,group dining,etc.

in my opinion a civilized society does not kill the uncivilized to show that uncivilized behavior is wrong .

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What do you wanta bet that if you did that some bleeding heart liberal would claim that this was cruel and unusual punishment and the ACLU would be there acting on his behalf and you would endup with a group like the one for Abu Jamal (?) - the guy who killed the NJ State Policemen. They would be out there holding benefits for him and saying that he would be reformed and then set free.

Remember the one that all the upper east side NY people supported after he wrote that book. They lobbied and finally got him released and he got a job as bartender at a plush joint. A few months later he killed someone else and is now back in jail.

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>a violator of his stature...

i'm laughing so hard it HURTS! what difference does it make if the man is short or not? }(

>should never be allowed any of the

>privileges of institutional life...ie:educational

>opportunities

denying educational opportunities would be cruel & unusual punishment. you'd be denying him the opportunity to read.

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>while i am opposed to capital punishment in all cases no

>matter what the offence, it does not mean i think he should

>not be maintained in a most severe and stimuli lacking

>enviorment. in my opinion he should be placed in an s.m.u. of the

>super-max class.

>a violator of his stature should never be allowed any of the

>privileges of institutional life...ie:educational

>opportunities,group recreation,group dining,etc.

AWESOME, TAYLOR! You always outdo yourself. "I don't believe in killing murderers, because that's uncivilized. Instead, I just think we should torture them in the most sadistic and inhumane way that I can think of, for every single minute of every single day starting now until the day he dies."

THANK YOU FOR THIS POST! I am printing it out and saving it.

> in my opinion a civilized society does not kill the

>uncivilized to show that uncivilized behavior is wrong .

Right - what civilized societies do instead is . . . we should conceive of the most heinous torture possible and then subject prisoners to that torture, where we will simply let them rot in solitary confinement and die a miserable, tortured death, day by day by day. That's what a civilized society does "to show that uncivilized behavior is wrong."

I SERIOUSLY LOVE YOU TAYLOR!!!!